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1. You spoil your position by bringing politics into religion. My interpretation from your comments is that you support Donald Trump?

   Pushing Trump’s position that Joe Biden stole the election from a man who himself is seen as a thief is upsetting to those who have suffered from Trump’s questionable business practices. Such as the Scottish small businesses he drove into the ground and even bankruptcy by refusing to pay for services he had hired them for.

   References to Joe Biden as JoeBama comes across as sarcastic. I haven’t listened enough to Joe Biden’s speeches since 2020 to have noticed him to be rambling and incoherent but during the election campaign itself I found Trump virtually unintelligible at times due to his rambling and incoherence. Sadly, Donald Trump made the USA the laughing stock of much of the rest of the world.

   There is much on the left of politics to criticise from a Christian perspective – LGBT rights among them. But I find the callousness of the Christian Right when turning their faces from those who are suffering from the effects of poverty and the impact of capitalist greed (capitalism and communism are both the cause of suffering) incomprehensible – in wealthy countries where typically the poor die younger than the rich because they can’t afford to eat well and they can’t afford better health care. Women are blamed for abortion rates while the men who impregnate them get off scott free. I pity the woman forced to endure the mental torture of having her body nurture a child implanted in her through abuse or even rape. We need to reach out and care for her, not castigate her if she cannot face that mental torture. And we need our men to take responsibility for their actions. [And I don’t approve of abortion.] In the UK where ‘immigrants’ are shunned and pushed away, when actually those so-called immigrants are often fleeing wars the wealthy countries are helping fund and promote, I do not see the compassion I see in Jesus.

   You do so much good in drawing attention to the cults that detract from the truth of the Gospel. Whilst straying into politics, how about looking at the impact of the callousness of the so-called Christian Right (as well as attacking socialism and the Democrats). Because I don’t see the compassion or forgiveness of Jesus there.

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   1. Hi Helen, I perceive that you are a Democrat. As such, I pray that you will repent and come to Christ. You cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven unless you are born again. I pray that happens. Concerning Biden vs Trump: The destruction of America (and the world) under Biden, and how America (and the world) prospered under Trump, is evidence of the true facts.

      I pray you do some serious soul searching, for it is impossible to be a Christian and also support a party that:

      1. Promotes and encourages the murder of innocent babies in the womb.
      2. Officially kicked God out of their party.
      3. Promotes homosexuality and transgenderism.
      4. Promotes theft through socialism. God said, “Thou Shall Not Steal.”
      5. Supports Biden, who frequently showered naked with his teenage daughter.
      6. Supports Biden, who has taken millions of dollars in bribes from America’s enemies.
      7. Supports Biden, who stole an election and lies about it.
      8. Supports Biden, who created dozens of fake shell companies, fake aliases and fake email addresses to launder his millions in illegal bribes.
      7. Supports sodomy as so-called “gay marriage.”
      8. Opposes Israel and supports Palestinian Terrorists.

      Your support of such wickedness makes you far guiltier than someone deceived by a cult. They are blind. But you are blind and say that you see, thus your guilt remains. I offer prayers for your eyes to be opened. May the conviction of the Holy Spirit bring you to repentance.

      …Pastor Mark

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   2. Hi Helen, I encourage you to read my book, Hidden History: The Real Story of the Democratic Party. It will be an eye-opener for you. Here is a link:

      Hidden History: The Real Story of the Democratic Party

      As Christians, we must let truth permeate every part of our life, including politics. The devil loves it when Christians retreat from the political arena, for then he has more control over the world. Proper stewardship requires that we bring our Christian beliefs with us when we vote or speak of political matters. Satan would love it if everyone did as you suggest, which is to leave Christian morality behind when we work to influence the world.

      …Pastor Mark

      …Pastor Mark

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2. Thank you for your comprehensive reply. I will read Hidden History.

   I am born again (which you doubt) and have been for many years. I am also British so I have an outsider’s perspective on both the Republican and Democrat parties. Our UK comparison of course is Labour and Conservative, where the division is more on economic grounds than it is on ‘moral’ grounds (I’m avoiding using the words ‘religious’, or even ‘Christian’, because Jesus wasn’t about ‘religion’).

   What I see is that whilst Biden has skeletons in his closet, so too does Trump. But that the Christian Right are being blinded by a narrow set of criteria by which to judge, in a way that is legalistic and a form of leaving Christian morality behind.

   We can condemn gay marriage but do we condemn adultery and divorce (of which Trump, along with the Swaggarts, is guilty). Will God look more kindly on Trump for his adultery because he condemned another man for his sins? Something about planks and specks of dust in the eye come to mind.

   Whilst we condemn the woman for seeking abortion, do we ever ask about the man who helped create that life? What part did he play? Was he a victim of the woman raping him, or was it the other way round? Crime statistics suggest the latter. Do we stop and ask why the woman wants to get rid of her unborn child? Was she raped or in a relationship with an abusive man, and how is her mental health knowing her body is nurturing the life of her abuser? Is that mental torture putting her at risk of suicide? Is she too poor to feed and clothe the child(ren) she already has? Will her child be born into a life of violence? Does she have drug or alcohol addictions that means her child will be born addicted and face a life of disabilities? And do we have any solutions to help her or do we condemn her for being a victim? Because just preventing the death of the unborn baby is not enough. Men need to take responsibility for their part in creating life, and as a society we need to try to ensure that that child has a life worth living. Or, at least, that, I believe, is what Jesus would want us to do.

   We can talk of socialism as promoting theft but do we challenge employers who are not paying a living wage, forcing workers into hardship and hunger, while a few gain from greater wealth. Is that not stealing from the future wealth of the nation when the poorest cannot afford to look after their health or properly educate their children? That’s not to say that there won’t be difference, just that the division will be fairer. In the UK it is our churches who run the food banks to feed the poor, including the working poor, who cannot afford to eat or heat their homes. Is our economic system so broken that the rich cannot afford to pay their workers enough to live on? Although there were those in the Old Testament, such as David, Abraham and Solomon, who were clearly wealthy and yet remained men of God, Jesus warned about hoarding wealth when He said it would be easier for a camel (or cord) to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven. When it comes to theft, there are a whole group of small businesses in Scotland who believe Trump stole from them when he commissioned them and then refused to pay for the work they had done, leaving them facing hardship and, in some cases, bankruptcy. Just like teachers will be judged more severely because of their leadership role, so surely the rich also have greater responsibility?

   In reality it would be easier for any Christian to opt out of politics altogether, as do the JWs, but that would also be abdicating our responsibilities to our communities and our fellow man. And Jesus said we should pray for our leaders.

   Unless someone receives Christ as their Saviour, unless they understand for themselves the healing power and are convicted for themselves of what is right and wrong, then using politics to force them to obey something they don’t believe in puts us in no better a position than those who try to force Sharia law on their populations. And that is what the Republican extreme Right looks like. It’s the legalistic approach condemned by Jesus. Far better, surely, to shine a light on the path with compassion? This is the role of the Church.

   All I’m asking is that while investigating the views of the political Left in the light of Christ, you also look at the impact of the views of the political Right. Because in the political Right I don’t see the compassion of Christ.

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   1. Hi Helen,
      Yes, I doubt that you are truly a born again Christian because you advocate for the murder of babies. By advocating for murder, you are complicit in murder. The Bible tells us that, “no murderer has eternal life residing in him.” (1 John 3:15). You also advocate for socialism, a wicked anti-God system that was born in the mind of an atheist and has murdered millions and destroyed entire nations.

      You misunderstand the purpose of this website. This is not a forum for cultists to advertise, proselytize, or argue their points. It is intended to help those who want help. Likewise, it is not a forum for leftists to advocate for murder and theft.

      When you come to this website to read or comment, you can consider you have, metaphorically speaking, “stepped inside” my church. As an ordained and retired pastor, I am happy to share biblical wisdom with those who respectfully request it. I am happy to answer sincere questions and help those who want to understand the Bible better. But I will not tolerate argument by any who want to encourage wickedness or heresies. All such comments will not pass mediation and thus will not be posted.

      In the context of my website, I expect you to show the type of godly respect that is appropriate. Rather than express your opinions as a woman who thinks she already knows everything, I will expect you to put on a mantle of humility that is appropriate for you, and to obey the Holy Scripture, which commands:

      “Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.” (1 Timothy 2:11-14)

      “As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission…If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.” (1 Corinthians 14:33-35)

      I adjure you to heed the Apostle Paul’s words above, and to harken unto 1 Corinthains 14:37, where Paul writes,“If anyone considers himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things I write to you are the commands of the Lord.”

      And 1 Corinthians 7:19, where Paul says: “what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God.”

      Within the context of my website, this is the decorum that I require. My website, my rules. Again, honest and sincere questions are acceptable. Argument is not. This is my website, to which I have devoted innumerable hours to help others who are deceived by heresies from cults or leftism. Many people have been helped here and it keeps me quite busy. Therefore, I cannot and will not waste time with those who want to express their dissent and argue against Scripture.

      I do understand that you are in the UK, and that this is a leftist state where lies are regularly promulgated on your media, even more so than in the U.S. Being where you are, you have been subjected to brainwashing by news media that is following the spirit of the Antichrist, the “mystery of lawlessness already at work” (2 Thessalonians 2:7) in the world. I know that many people in the UK do not even realize that society and the news media has led them astray. Therefore, I am willing to give you some grace to see if you are teachable.

      I will not bother to answer your comment point-by-point, for to do so would be futile, at least until I see that you are teachable, and if you are, then the first order of business is for you to come to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, which requires a change of heart and a willingness to abandon the abominable philosophies that have deceived you.

      Your willingness to read my books does give me some hope that you might be brought around to a teachable spirit. But if you wish to read them for the sake of argument, you will find yourself arguing with thin air, for your comments will not post and will not be answered. However, if you read with a humble spirit, your eyes may be opened. I am glad to hear you say that you will read Hidden History.

      If you accept these terms, and assuming you want to be mentored, as homework, I assign you the following articles to read from my website:

      Salvation

      The first step is to come to Christ and be born again. Once that happens you will be a new person, one who no longer wants to advocate for the murder of innocent babies or follow wicked philosophies such socialism. The following article will help you in this direction:

      https://christiananswerman.com/how-to-be-saved/

      Socialism

      The following articles will help you begin the deprogramming process that will free you from following a cultish and false philosophy that raises itself up against the knowledge of God:

      https://christiananswerman.com/communismsocialism/

      https://christiananswerman.com/socialism-versus-safety-nets/

      https://christiananswerman.com/why-socialism-is-bad/

      https://christiananswerman.com/christianity-and-politics/

      https://christiananswerman.com/why-socialism-is-evil/

      Abortion

      I have no articles on abortion because I never imagined that someone claiming to be a born-again Christian would advocate for murder, as you so clearly have. Once you come to the real Christ of Scripture and submit to Him, you will be changed and know in your heart that murder is wrong.

      God Bless,
      Pastor Mark

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3. I have absolutely no expectation that you will publish any of this on your website, not least because it is way too long. I’m really just putting forward my experience of politics and religion in the UK in the hope that you may understand where my confusion comes from. I am not trying to argue or ‘teach’, although I appreciate that if you perceive it as such you may not accept my experience as valid. Either way I understand.
   I Cor 114:33-35 – this is difficult since my husband left me 8 years ago for a woman 30 years younger than either of us. The nearest male relative I have that is probably a Christian is the husband of my mother’s cousin living in Australia, but I have only met him once some 30+ years ago. My father (a humanist) is dead, I have neither brother nor brother in law, son nor son in law, and my male cousins or partners of cousins are all unsaved and their advice would be far from Godly, and anyway we only meet at funerals these days. As a woman alone I obviously have to be careful what friendships I form. As I read Scripture my understanding is that remarriage is not an option as that would place both myself and any future husband into a state of adultery. Apart from my own regular reading of the Bible, I am otherwise dependent on what I can glean from teaching in church, via the internet, or through media broadcasting, but completely without the option of seeking spiritual guidance from a husband or even a near kinsman. If I am out of order because of my circumstances then I apologise.
   Salvation – I was born again in the way you describe nearly 40 years ago.
   I believe both abortion and homosexuality are sins that require the redemptive salvation of Christ.
   Based on what I have read in your book Hidden History, it seems that the lines between socialism and capitalism are a lot more blurred in the UK than they are in the US, which is why my perception is different, or confused.

   HOMOSEXUALITY
   The division of Christian and political and secular views on homosexuality in the UK are not at all as clear as they would seem to be in the US. Although the legalisation of homosexuality (some 400 years after it was made illegal) was passed under a Labour government in the 1960’s, it was a Conservative MP who first proposed the legislation the previous year. And no party, left, right or centrist, has a position for changing that. Indeed, as far as I can tell, over the years there have been more homosexual Conservative MPs than there have been Labour MPs. But then there have also been more Conservative MPs than Labour MPs so that might not be a fair comparison. The minor centrist Party, the Liberal Democrats, were the first to come out as supportive of homosexuality back in the 1980’s, but are probably the most conservative today when it comes to liberal views.
   There is little said in our mainstream churches to denounce homosexuality, adultery and fornication as sin. If they were to there would a public outcry with the preacher denounced and the clamouring cry would be that the church is out of touch and irrelevant to modern society. At least, that is what has happened in the past. Given that our national media is generally considered to be almost exclusively politically right wing this reinforces the perception that right wing politics does not condemn homosexuality, any more than left wing politics does.
   In UK socialism there are atheists, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, and more. The demand is that all are accepted, even if they sometimes make for very unhappy bedfellows, although as you point out with regard to socialism in the US, the strongest ‘religion’ is atheism. Right wing capitalist politics may appear to be more ‘religious’ but, apart from being fairly Islamophobic, it is a populist type of religion that would not tolerate true Biblical teaching, and for that reason I find it to be even more deceptive and dangerous than the socialist preference for atheism. At least in socialism the wolf is not trying to dress up in sheep’s clothing.
   There are, of course, those who claim to be both Christian and homosexual and try to twist Scripture to prove their point. However, I think the verse that says a man should not lie with another man as with a woman is pretty clear. As the matter is not really openly preached or discussed I can only say that I like to hope that most Bible believing Christians would agree with both that view and that it is only by the conviction of the Holy Spirit that sinners can be brought to repentance. After all, trying to enforce obedience to Christian doctrine through the law is no more likely to be successful today than it was in Old Testament times, or in modern day Islamic enforcement of Islamic beliefs through Sharia Law. We might be able to make things look good on the outside, like the whitened sepulchre, but the law doesn’t change the heart.
   ABORTION
   Whilst the legalisation of abortion in limited circumstances was also passed under a Labour government, it was introduced by a Liberal Party MP (centrist rather than socialist, particularly at that time). The vast majority of UK abortions (I think it’s about 98%) are approved on the grounds of the ‘mental health of the mother’. Tenuous through being unprovable, an opt-out clause if ever there was one.
   I don’t condone or advocate for abortion. I worry about the welfare of the children whose lives are saved, growing up in homes where they are unwanted and unloved, at risk of violence and neglect, and the long-term impact of those circumstances on their ability to become decent law-abiding and productive citizens of the future. Whilst mothers are being blamed as looking for free handouts little consideration is given to the responsibility of the fathers, particularly if we adhere to women being submissive to men. If a man takes advantage of a woman’s natural position of submission, then isn’t she a victim herself? Literally, as the saying goes, left holding the baby. And if the woman tries to tempt the man, then shouldn’t he as the stronger partner, be responsible for saying no? I don’t understand why the woman is the only one who is blamed rather than more men being held to account for either being weak or taking advantage of their misuse of power?
   Socialism and capitalism aside the only real solution is that more of our men come to the saving grace of a faith in Jesus and take up the mantle of their responsibilities, rather than the church being dominated by women trying to defend the faith (I don’t know about the US but in the UK men are largely missing from the church).
   ECONOMY & CORRUPTION
   This is really where my confusion arises. In your book you mention that the Democrats forced small mom and pop businesses to close during the Covid pandemic and attribute this to the aims of socialism, but the same happened in the UK under what has been one of our most right wing Conservative governments ever. Here, the interpretation of that was that right wing politics favours wealthy big business, with wealthy politicians in the pockets of big business through ‘jobs’ (lucrative directorships), being shareholders, donations to Party funds (the largest being ‘hidden’ through illegal means just as you accuse Biden of doing) for electioneering and other campaigning. Small businesses are of no interest to the rich as they cannot get enough wealth out of them (as you say in your book). But in the UK this is a right-wing viewpoint, not a socialist left-wing view.
   In the UK this view of Conservative politics was reinforced during the pandemic with multi-million pound contracts to provide PPE being given to large wealthy companies with connections to MPs or their partners / family members. This was despite smaller, even medium sized businesses, having more expertise and better able to fulfil the contracts quicker and at a more competitive cost to the country. One particular situation involved the giving of a multi-million pound contact to provide a ferry service to a company that had only been in existence for a few months and didn’t own any ferries, had no experience of every having run a ferry, and had no contracts with anyone else who had ferries, the only link being that the company included a wealthy associate of a wealthy Conservative MP. I recall this one because the ferry port that was to be used was in my home town. Similarly, it was our Right wing government that forced our churches (and mosques as it happens) to remain closed, breaking down families and communities, and crippling community support during a time when it was even more needed. But this hasn’t just been happening during the pandemic. Our Right wing Conservative government have long been favouring big business over small independent businesses. Yet the same behaviour is attributed to socialism in the US. It makes it hard to tell the difference.
   Linked to this is the prevalence of nepotism in right wing politics, particularly at the most senior level. The kind of behaviours you are describing as being carried out by Obama and Biden etc is mostly seen among our right wing politicians in the UK. This is especially enabled by our education system. Before educating children became a legal requirement in the 1800’s all education was privately funded by parents, with just a few church schools that offered some free places. With the change in law it was obvious that poor working parents couldn’t afford school fees and so the state school system was set up to provide state funded schools to enable parents to obey the law. For those who could afford it privately funded education was still available. Needless to say, that means the wealthiest parents could afford the best education for their children right through to university once compulsory education has been completed. This puts the children of wealthier parents at an advantage, they get better jobs and they give more jobs to those who have experienced similar privileges. Children of wealthy parents are more likely to get a job in a business paying a higher salary, while children of poor parents might be able to get a job in the same low-paid factory work their parents are engaged in. I appreciated your explanation that socialism disincentivises hard work and that capitalism encourages you to work harder to enable you to earn more and save more and enjoy a better standard of living, but in the UK the privilege of having been able to make contacts in your youth through having parents who were able to buy you that privilege is virtually impossible to overcome no matter how hard you work. And that in itself is a disincentive. Much as we might light to think we are a classless society, class divisions are as strong now as they ever were. The elite close ranks on those outside their own networks. Without access to the elite education system our socialist politicians don’t have the kind of contacts we see in our most senior right wing politicians, who all tend to come from the same tiny handful of privately funded education routes and the wealthiest families and so that kind of corruption is more prevalent (rather than exclusively) among our right wing capitalist politicians. I guess it’s not like that in the US.
   I’m not saying the socialists are innocent, after all, as the saying goes, power corrupts, and greed is actually the root of the problem, it’s just that the right wing capitalists have easier access to facilitate corruption and have been caught red-handed in the UK over many years, but not least during Covid, and they are certainly far from innocent.
   I don’t know the situation in the US now but in the UK we are seeing a rise in the signs of developing malnutrition with children and adults being admitted to hospital with nutrition deficient conditions, children are becoming smaller for their age compared to previous generations, some are even displaying bowed legs as the signs of rickets, and a small but growing number of admissions to hospital are due to malnutrition. These figures are still relatively small compared to the whole country but the concern is that this is the result of some ten years of increasing poverty that has led to the normalisation of the use of food banks (charity free-food) among not only those who are not in work but increasingly workers whose wages are insufficient to cover their basic rent and housing costs. Food supplied by food banks is heavy in being processed and low in nutrition with very little genuinely fresh food being available. OK for emergencies but not able to provide for a long term healthy diet even though by now they are seen as a long term solution to a financial crisis. Unfortunately, as the financial crisis has worsened so too has the amount of food being donated to the food banks reduced, because for the most part it has been the poorer in our society who have been supporting the poorest and they are now shifting down a level in their own ability to survive. And this has developed not under a socialist government but during 15 years of right wing capitalist government.
   I understand your point that people should not be taxed to pay for ‘social services’ for the poor, that all should contribute from their income into insurances that will cover their health and education and retirement, but due to food poverty and hunger the poorest workers are choosing to risk their long term future just to survive today. It seems that what we are seeing in the UK today is a return to the situation at the beginning of the 20th Century when Britain found that the men who were being conscripted to fight in the war were not fit enough to even be sent off as cannon fodder due to the long term effects of this kind of malnutrition caused only by poor wages, because back then there was no welfare state, only prison or the workhouse. And this is the roots of the development and growth of the Labour Party and UK socialism. Among Conservative / capitalists wage poverty to this extent is not discussed. Among socialists it is viewed as the rich business owners and shareholders stealing from the poor, rather than the other way round. If the owners and shareholders were willing to pay their workers a better way for their labour, even though it would mean less profits for them, the poor would be better placed to feed themselves today and prepare and pay for tomorrow. And the lure of socialism would disappear.
   Over the last century UK politics, rather like US politics, has shifted between socialist to capitalist many times. All in all however, it has been the right wing capitalist politics that has dominated, by holding power for something like three quarters of the time. And yet, compared to the US, we are seen as a leftist state. It has always seemed to me that it’s not the politics that’s the problem but man’s fallen state and greed.
   Anyway, if you are still reading, thank you, and, like I said, I just hope you can see why, as a Brit, I am confused. There is much that is different in the influences on our politics and our churches. I totally agree with you that the only solution is for both our nations to return to God.

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   1. Hi Helen,

      Your comment is far too long for me to be able to answer you point-by-point. You say somethings that are amiss, but time constraints limit me in my answers, for as you said, it is a long comment. I will simply like to elucidate a few points:

      1. Any political party, left or right, can be corrupt. We have some corruption in our Republican Party, and a boatload of corruption in the Democrat Party.

      2. I completely agree with your statement: “It has always seemed to me that it’s not the politics that’s the problem but man’s fallen state and greed.” However, when a political party, or leader, embraces sin and wickedness as policy, then that party should be opposed and it is a Christian’s duty to do so. If they do not, it is at their own peril. If more Christian churches in Germany had stood up to Hitler early on, then WW II would not have happened and the cities of Germany would not have been turned into rubble.

      3. Concerning churches in the UK being unable to address the sin of homosexuality: I am reminded of the words of the Apostle Peter, who warned, “save yourselves from this perverse generation!” (Acts 2:40) It is a sad state of affairs when a society or government has become so corrupt that pastors are not allowed to preach the entire counsel of God. If I was a pastor in the UK it would only be a matter of time until they jailed me. I wonder what they would do to John the Baptist or Jesus. American is on the same road to hell, so don’t feel like I’m down on the UK. The UK is just a bit farther down the road than we are.

      4. Be cautious against letting your former unfortunate marriage circumstances into a “man-hater.” There are wicked women as well as men. Your concern for children and distain for men takes you off on a tangent that causes you to say things that tend to sound like you are excusing abortion. There is no excuse for murder. Killing a baby because you don’t want it to experience suffering is tantamount to putting yourself in the place of God. You should repent of that. The fact of the matter is that most abortions are for unmarried women. Men and women who commit fornication are culpable. The baby is not. Don’t murder the baby because of what the parents did.

      5. Yes, I understand how confusing it must be for someone in the UK. I have counseled others that live there and I am well aware of how secular the society is. As a Christian you must stand against sin and not be influenced by the secularism around you. Listen to what the Bible says, not what the world says.

      6. Please share your testimony with me of getting saved. What church are you attending? Do you go every Sunday? Unless you are in a Bible-preaching church regularly it is very difficult to remain unstained from the world. We must do as Paul said, “We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.” (1 Corinthians 10:5)

      7. You said that your husband abandoned you and committed adultery and that you believe you are forbidden by Scripture to remarry. Scripture is clear: You are free to remarry, if you wish, under those circumstances. That does not mean you should. It means you can if you feel so led by the Holy Spirit. The Bible does not forbid it. I can go over scriptures with you on that if you wish.

      8. Please confirm with me whether or not you have read the articles I sent you.

      God bless,

      Pastor Mark

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